Have Your Say

there was a time when regular contributors to BBC ‘Have Your Say’ had an account page where previous comments they had written were kept for personal review _ that’s all been replaced with a LINK TO THIS link in each comment _ which is fine and_ no doubt ‘progressive’  _ though it might have been more respectful to veteran contributors if HYS management hadn’t thrown our old comments ‘out with the bathwater’ when that change occurred _

anyone who knows about psy_warrior anywhere on the web would probably not describe me as a ‘pussy-footer’ _ having comments removed from HYS has become almost stock-in-trade for my BBC account and_ speaking frankly_ i’m sometimes surprised i still have access to Have Your Say _
however_ this ‘checkered’ experience has also shown me that BBC doesn’t always stick to their rules either _

15th April 2012 update _
because of the pressure required to instigate change to BBC errors a new Have Your Say account directly attached to this blogsite has been created _ Effective this date ‘HYS’ comments posted on this page will be delineated between psy_warrior and antiBBCTrust

17th May 2012 update _
after a ‘war of words’ BBC Central Communities Team contacted anti-BBCTrust to inform that they have blocked anti-BBCTrust Have Your Say account because this blogger has another HYS account _
which is considered disruptive behaviour under the house rules that you agreed to abide by on registering your account –

Abusive or disruptive behaviour is not allowed on BBC blogs. This includes:
– Using multiple accounts to disrupt boards, annoy users, or to avoid pre-moderation.

this BBC decision is erroneous_ because it is based entirely upon a misinterpretation by BBC staff of BBC’s HYS rules _  in fact_ and in consideration of the sequence of emails between BBC and anti-BBCTrust today (recorded in correspondence) it can be argued that the decision to block anti-BBCTrust account was made purely to ‘punish’ anti-BBCTrust_ evidenced in the content of the correspondence _  A complaint against HYS staff has been logged with BBC today_ and includes the decision to block anti-BBCTrust HYS account _  

comments will be posted in chronological order with the latest at the top
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170512 posted by psy_warrior on behalf of anti-BBCTrust
post #248 on How do you insult someone legally?
“For supporters of the current arrangements, it is not the law that is the problem but its interpretation by over-zealous officials.”

there is no better example of this on the world wide web than BBC Have Your Say’s own ubiquitous ‘Rule F’ _ which is so wide ranging it is able to encompass anything that BBC moderators don’t personally ‘like’

(on behalf of anti-BBCTrust)

160512 comment removed (posted by antiBBCTrust)
post #340  on Children’s shows to leave BBC One
5 BBC errors reported today (so far!)

05 badly edited _ 1625 GMT
status _ uncorrected
04 pluralization error _ 0810 GMT
status _ corrected
03 badly edited _ 0800 GMT
status _ corrected
02 word missing _ 0640 GMT
status _ uncorrected
01 badly edited _ 0600 GMT
status _ corrected

instead of removing FAIR comments about BBC ‘lack of quality’ perhaps staff should do something to actually improve!!

160512 posted by antiBBCTrust
post #179  on Children’s shows to leave BBC One
how can a report which focusses on cost-cutting be given a title ‘Putting Quality First’ _ it’s literally ‘a contradiction in terms’

BBC & BBCTrust would indeed do well to focus on Quality_ which has become ‘lost’ to them in the last decade
BEFORE you remove this post for ‘further consideration’ consider 113 error reports submitted to BBCNews website in last 7 weeks_ EVIDENCE OF LOST QUALITY!!

160512 comment removed (posted by antiBBCTrust)
post #97  on Children’s shows to leave BBC One
comment #52
“This comment has been referred for further consideration”

this is ‘BBCspeak’ for _ the comment doesn’t break the rules but mediators don’t like it anyway _
BE ADVISED _ this comment AND comment #52 are logged and linked to from another website _ if comment #52 is not ‘processed’ by your supervisor quickly and returned BECAUSE IT BREAKS NO RULES_ then a formal complaint will follow

160512 _ comment ‘removed for further consideration’ (posted by antiBBCTrust)
post #52 on
Children’s shows to leave BBC One
“The BBC Trust document was its final report into cost-saving plans known internally as “Delivering Quality First””.

LOL (for Laugh Out Loud!)
BBC MUST REMEMBER WHAT QUALITY MEANS
BEFORE THEY CAN DELIVER IT
under the Thompson regime Truth & Quality are attributes BBC directors and staff have become increasingly estranged from _
this BBC Trust report is known ‘externally’ as ‘Making Money First’

160512 _ comment removed (posted by antiBBCTrust)
post #21
on Ratko Mladic goes on trial over Bosnia ‘war crimes’
at comment #18 _ well said that man!!

and now you can expect both your comment and this one to be removed under the ubiquitous ‘Rule F’

160512 _ comment posted by psy_warrior
post #16 on
Ratko Mladic goes on trial over Bosnia ‘war crimes’
“Many fear that Mladic, who suffered one stroke while in hiding and remains in frail health, could escape judgement by dying mid-trial”

should such a thing happen it’s still better Mladic ‘departs’ knowing he was in the process of answering for his crimes _
AND there are many people who believe that whether he dies on trial or not_ Mladic WILL receive Justice at the end of days _ insha’Allah!

110512 _ comment posted by antiBBCTrust
post #28 on
Brooks – Now it’s getting serious
on it’s website Ofcom describes itself as ‘Independent regulator and competition authority for the UK communications industries’ _

the word ‘authority’ implies an institution rather than a person_ so the sentence ‘Ofcom, who had just declared’ should read ‘Ofcom, which had just declared’

come on Mr Robinson!
if you set an example your BBC colleagues can look up to maybe they’ll even follow it

110512 _ comment posted by psy_warrior
post #29 on
Why was the US military teaching ‘total war’ on Islam?
@manofsan #19 _ the ONLY thing you demonstrate with your ‘moral equivalance’ is your ‘blatant ignorance’ _

RELIGION IS NOT THE FOCUS OF THIS NEWS
the point here is that whilst the foreign policy of a major NATO ally is ‘publicly’ disengaging from our long&brutal invasions of several Middle East countries_ their senior officers are volunteering for a course which belies a very different mindset _

010512 _ comment posted by antiBBCTrust
post #91 on
Murdoch ‘not fit’ to run News Corp
so four Conservative MPs declined to take part in this well-deserved condemnation of the Murdoch dynasty and empire _

that speaks volumes_ does it not??

why was it the Tories were voted out of power the last time?
ah yes_ they had gradually been branded ‘a government of sleaze’

#YouCan’tTeachAnOldBulldogNewTricks

200412 _ comment posted by antiBBCTrust
post #399 on Are language cops losing war against ‘wrongly’ used words?
what a pity this article didn’t add a few more sentences about sources used by the BBC News website _ that at least would be useful!!
so far a total of 7 errors_ all linked to the front page_ have been reported today by antiBBCTrust _
so far none of them have been corrected _

#ThankGodItsFriday! >: \

150412 _ comment posted by antiBBCTrust
post #593 on Doctors unite to combat obesity

36 _ #150412 – 01 Capitalization error _
BBC contacted 150412 0025 GMT _ status _ uncorrected
All references to colleges in this article are proper names of medical organizations _ i.e. AoRC & Royal Medical Colleges &Faculties __ so the reference to colleges’ in this sentence below should be capitalized _ Colleges’
‘The Dept of Health said it welcomed the colleges’ “emphasis…’

150412 _ comment posted by antiBBCTrust
post #129 on Titanic tragedy remembered in special events
#BBC finally get their facts right!
BUT the work it takes to correct them is way too much &will be noted in anti-BBCTrust April Error Report

150412 _ comment posted by psy_warrior
post #93 on Titanic tragedy remembered in special events
this article last updated 0906 150412 GMT yet though BBC was contacted about getting facts right still no changes have been made!

this is NOT the ‘world’s largest visitor’s centre’!!
According to an article by The Scotsman the Harland and Woolf centre is “the World’s Largest Titanic Visitor Experience”

2 examples of MUCH larger visitors centres_
Place Leopold and Kennedy Space Center

130412 _ comment posted
post #188 on
Viewpoint: Alastair Campbell – why self-doubt is a good thing
annoyed with moderators removing your comments under ‘Rule F’ ??
(which pretty much gives them carte blanche to remove everything!)

type ‘Alistair Campbell on Twitter’ into any well-known search engine then you can make your comments directly to the individual that the BBC moderators are protecting >; )

130412 _ comment posted
post #584 on
Cigarette packet branding to face consultation
Are BBC being paid to advertise Camel_ Lucky Strike and Marlboro cigarettes??

i only ask as this is the second ‘Ban Smoking’ article that the same image has been used _
It must be that or BBC editors are either very uncreative or they are severely restricted in their choice of media

130412 _ comment posted
post #51 on Viewpoint: Alastair Campbell – why self-doubt is a good thing

WHY does the BBC love this man sooooo much?
WHAT is it that BBC viewers ARE allowed to say about him without being deleted?
WHEN will BBC learn that parading Campbell in various guises is NOT going to make us like him any better?
HOW much longer will the British public have him pushed on to us?
WHO IS ALISTAIR CAMPBELL THAT MAKES HIM SOOOOO INDISPENSIBLE TO THE BBC?!?

130412 _ comment removed
post #46 on Viewpoint: Alastair Campbell – why self-doubt is a good thing
i started blogging after reading what Alistair Campbell had written about ‘ordinary’ human beings on his blog >: (
THIS MAN IS A BULLY who had a hand in the demise of Dr David Kelly & who has ruined who knows how many careers/lives since then
What amazes me is the continuing ‘luv-in’ the BBC has with him! Campbell has reappeared on BBC in various guises

BUT NONE OF THEM MAKE HIM A BETTER MAN!

060412 _ comment removed
post #15 on Malawi President Bingu wa Mutharika ‘dead’
Arnold55555 comment #8

well spotted sir!
we’re now closely following how the BBC News website makes use of both inverted comments and speech marks _ we’re actually trying to understand what the formula is for their use

and now this comment will be deleted as ‘not pertinent’
but that’s ok because it’s recorded elsewhere
(including the deletion!) >: p

060412 _ comment published
post #307 on Tobacco display ban ‘to curb young smokers’
LOL _ WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE?
only on the BBC could you find a headline _
Tobacco display ban ‘to curb young smokers’
accompanied by a photograph that clearly displays
Camel_ Lucky Strike and Marlboro tobacco brands


010412 _ comment extant
post #676 on Email and web use ‘to be monitored’ under new laws
the BBC are renowned for ‘adding’ a story to the news for April 1st
we had better hope for everyone’s sake that this is it!!

(minor indications in this article imply that it might be)
Home Office sources not specific or dated
story details comprised from older reports
inconclusive ending

we can always hope_ right? : \

010412 _ comment extant
post #479 on Email and web use ‘to be monitored’ under new laws
this is by far the WORST news this Sunday _
so much so i wonder if it’s BBC not ‘pulling our legs’ for April 1st!
though with the obvious penchant Cameron et al. have for going against public wishes_ it wouldn’t suprise me that this is their next step to Conservative Britain
the long-term outcomes for such invasive legislation are too much for a single comment

three words_ WRONG! WRONG! WRONG!

300312 _ comment listed in Editor’s pick
post #123 on Labour ‘disappointed’ as Galloway hails Bradford West win
Excellent News!
as a member of the disaffected British public i’m truly delighted that Galloway’s ‘thorn’ might be felt deeply in the side of many present self-interested practitioners of all three main parties ‘coalition politics’ at the House Of Commons
like it or not_ Galloway IS a genuine People’s representative _ it is high time there was more of a ‘public’ voice in HoC
note _
this is an almost verbatim copy of the previous HYS but posted on the news article this time_ rather than Nick Robinson’s blog-piece _ it is the first time ‘psy’ has been chosen for Editor’s pick! (and for a repeat!)

300312 _ comment extant
post #149 on Bradford: an extraordinary one-off
Excellent News! : )
as a member of the disaffected British public i’m truly delighted that Galloway’s ‘thorn’ might be felt deeply in the side of many of the present self-interested practitioners of all three main parties ‘coalition politics’ at the House Of Commons
like it or not_ Galloway IS a genuine People’s representative _ it is high time there was more of a ‘public’ voice in HoC

280312 _ comment published
post #109 on Is Brighton the next Maastrichtanti-BBCTrust
# 290312 – 01 wrong tense _ BBC contacted 280312 0445 GMT
# 290312 _ 01 wrong tense _ BBC contacted via HYS 1405 GMT
status_ uncorrected
conference held in February but no extravaganza is planned_ for May?
The city’s university held an academic conference on European issues in February – but no extravaganza, complete with fireworks and carnivals, is planned.

280312 _ comment published
post #49 on Bishops must stay in the Lords, MPs and peers say
if Lords is about ‘oversight’ of government legislation
wouldn’t we prefer people with ‘ethical’ rather than ‘commercial’ backgrounds to share that responsibility?
i would have thought the bishops would be least of our concerns_ &might be interesting to find out WHY public focus is now directed at them in particular just before Lords reforms _

PUBLIC FOCUS SHOULD REMAIN ON LORDS OF COMMERCE!

250312 _ comment extant
post #81 on Cameron criticises Peter Cruddas for donor boast
at what point in Cameron’s Reign will the electorate be allowed to express an Honest Opinion about the Conservative Party and it’s ‘associates’ ?
how many have been forced to resign?
are undergoing a criminal investigation?
are presently on police bail?!
when are we allowed to write
‘THIS GOVERNMENT IS COMPLETELY DISHONEST’
without the threat of BBC moderation

i guess we’ll find out today!

160312 _ comment extant
post #757 on Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams to stand down
it’s becoming undeniable_ the lessening of the grip Christianity has upon the social fabric of a culture largely built upon a foundation of Christian belief_

with news of Rowan Williams stepping down that ‘lessening’ became more palpable for a moment_ brought to mind the adage that indeed _ ‘all good things must come to an end’

i’m not a church-goer but i admire the man & sincerely thank him

100312 _ comment extant

post #409 on Lib Dem Conference rejects NHS protest vote
judging by the abnormally high hit rate on these comments it is very clear that the public are incensed by what is happening to the NHS _
SOMEONE IN GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE LOOKING AT THIS PAGE

because trouble is obviously brewing _

100312 _ comment extant
post #385
on Lib Dem Conference rejects NHS protest vote
by making the choice not to debate the NHS issue at their conference the LibDems have confirmed two things to the electorate _
1) their own bland do-nothing reputation
2) that they will never again be a real player in UK politics

040312 _ comment deleted
post #4
on Aipac: Barack Obama firm for Israel, firm on Iran
israel uses the ‘Iran question’ to divert attention from it’s own unilaterally uninspected nuclear arsenal AND more importantly_ the continued illegal land grab from the Occupied Palestinian Territories

as for the United States_ according to indicted war-criminal and ex-israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon “the United States is enslaved to israel”
He wasn’t wrong! >: ( “

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